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4. Februar 2019 um 21:52
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4. Februar 2019 um 22:02
ROBJOL
You are talking about a really sensitive subject.
The industrial slaughter of animals is inhuman. Certainly, we can find the proteins we need in plants. But how to find a balance that would feed hungry people while respecting life in all its forms.
Some people think that trees and plants suffer ... I get lost a little ...
When a native kills an animal on the hunt, he thanks the Spirit who allows him to feed his family.
Are we so far from the hunter? We do not want to know how the animal we eat was treated.
Very complicated and subject to reflection my friend. +2
The industrial slaughter of animals is inhuman. Certainly, we can find the proteins we need in plants. But how to find a balance that would feed hungry people while respecting life in all its forms.
Some people think that trees and plants suffer ... I get lost a little ...
When a native kills an animal on the hunt, he thanks the Spirit who allows him to feed his family.
Are we so far from the hunter? We do not want to know how the animal we eat was treated.
Very complicated and subject to reflection my friend. +2
5. Februar 2019 um 09:41
Uloisius
Hello Robert, Natives who hunt for survival and respect flora and fauna are not explicitly meant by this text.
But we are not natives or Stone Age people but citizens of a modern world where nature is trampled on and animals are treated like objects. By far the largest part of the grain harvested worldwide is fed to livestock, for an animal calorie to "produce" it requires about 6-7 vegetable calories.
It would be a giant step towards solving the problem of world hunger if meat consumption were stopped and the resulting resources would be made available to the human diet.
I am also annoyed by the handling of animals themselves, the self-evident fact with which humans deny the animal every right to freedom and a life in peace.
Animals are treated like things, they have feelings like us humans too. Personally, I stand for a peaceful and not for the cruel dictatorship by the people ;o) +1
But we are not natives or Stone Age people but citizens of a modern world where nature is trampled on and animals are treated like objects. By far the largest part of the grain harvested worldwide is fed to livestock, for an animal calorie to "produce" it requires about 6-7 vegetable calories.
It would be a giant step towards solving the problem of world hunger if meat consumption were stopped and the resulting resources would be made available to the human diet.
I am also annoyed by the handling of animals themselves, the self-evident fact with which humans deny the animal every right to freedom and a life in peace.
Animals are treated like things, they have feelings like us humans too. Personally, I stand for a peaceful and not for the cruel dictatorship by the people ;o) +1
4. Februar 2019 um 22:01
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5. Februar 2019 um 09:49
Uloisius
It was a strong need for me to put it this way.
A wise man once said, "You see the chip in the eye of the other but the board in front of your own head you can not see."
That which frightens us is what we ourselves daily do to our closest relatives in the known universe, the animals.
We mistreat them, rob them of their liberty, kill them and eat them. Speciesism, in my opinion, is just as outlawed as sexism and racism.
If man stopped as he did with the animals at the time, we would live in a better world ;o) +2
A wise man once said, "You see the chip in the eye of the other but the board in front of your own head you can not see."
That which frightens us is what we ourselves daily do to our closest relatives in the known universe, the animals.
We mistreat them, rob them of their liberty, kill them and eat them. Speciesism, in my opinion, is just as outlawed as sexism and racism.
If man stopped as he did with the animals at the time, we would live in a better world ;o) +2
4. Februar 2019 um 22:27
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5. Februar 2019 um 10:18
abuitremorem
Ich vermute, dass Descartes eine grosse Rolle spielte, dass wir Tiere heute so behandeln. :(:(:(
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5. Februar 2019 um 11:28
Uloisius
moin Renè, ich kenne die Lehren des Renè Descartes nicht, kannst du mir mehr zu deiner Vermutung sagen ?
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5. Februar 2019 um 13:04
6. Februar 2019 um 01:14
Uloisius
Das kann gut sein das diese Art zu denken eine Rolle spielt.
Denken perse macht aber für mich nicht den Menschen aus, die grausamsten Vertreter der Menschheit in Vergangenheit und Gegenwart dachten oder denken auch. Gerade beim Denken scheint mir aber kommt es darauf an was man daraus macht.
Aus heutiger Sicht ordne ich die Aussage Descartes als ganz klar speziesistisch ein.
Ich denke, also darf ich mit allen die dies nicht oder aber auf eine mir unverständlische Art und Weise tun machen was ich will.
Eine solche Einstellung ist eigentlich nicht zu aktzeptieren ;o) +0
Denken perse macht aber für mich nicht den Menschen aus, die grausamsten Vertreter der Menschheit in Vergangenheit und Gegenwart dachten oder denken auch. Gerade beim Denken scheint mir aber kommt es darauf an was man daraus macht.
Aus heutiger Sicht ordne ich die Aussage Descartes als ganz klar speziesistisch ein.
Ich denke, also darf ich mit allen die dies nicht oder aber auf eine mir unverständlische Art und Weise tun machen was ich will.
Eine solche Einstellung ist eigentlich nicht zu aktzeptieren ;o) +0
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